To me - this boils down to a small frame, 5 shot, 357mag or 44 Special pistol. Right or wrong, legal or illegal, while carrying a long arm of any kind on the trail, you are certain to converse with a law enforcement officer relatively soon. But then the bear turned, looked up at Brenner and lunged, said Lewis, who interviewed the three men Saturday. The sow kept coming toward him, even after he fired shots in the air with the .22 rifle. “One of the bears charged the deputy and the deputy shot it. Weiman then killed it with one shot from a .30-30 rifle. That doesn’t make .22 an appropriate round for bear. We have found twenty-eight (updated 8 March 2020) cases where .44 magnum revolvers were used to defend against bears. 3. He was taken to Alta Vista Hospital in Las Vegas, N.M., where he was treated and released. She was able to access a .44 mag, but was unwilling to fire. 2. I was also thinking that a ’92 takedown in .44-40 or .45 Colt would be an acceptable substitute for the Shockwave. Joe over at Real Guns got over 2100ft/lbs out of both the Federal Fusion 150gr. The hunter received bite injuries to his foot through his boot as he climbed a tree to try to escape the bear. Morris underwent surgery at a Livingston hospital and was recuperating Monday at his brother’s house in Helena. My bearer, Harry, can carry it for me. Black bear predatory attacks often give potential victims good opportunities to use a handgun effectively. They both went flying from the log, claws flying and teeth snapping in midair. Mr. Kris, a warden captain here for 22 years, killed the 400- to 500-pound bear with six shots from his .357 caliber Magnum revolver as it bit him. My thought was a crickett in 22 mag. They kept a watch at night, and repeatedly drove off the bear with warning shots. July-August 2000, Dawson City, Yukon, Geologist with Authority to Carry, Black Bear, .44 Magnum. Sights, Blued. The cubs remained in the backyard. Brown bear shot by policemen  after attack on veterinarian police s uses, at that time (2010) 9mm Makarov, I'm pretty sure about 95% it was basic FMJ (Full metal jackets) They shot around 8-9 shot, no one can tell how many actually hit the bear. The report was made to Fish and Wildlife, and the bear was found dead the next day. Joe was answering a call of nature when he heard the bear coming. Noah thought it was some sort of big animal. Never, I mean NEVER leave the house without at least two blades. We found seven cases where 9 mm pistols were used to defend against bears. When Reed distracted the bear from its attack on me, I had time to concentrate on the holster. The bear did not notice him immediately. As Elvis might have said, carrying the Henry feels so good how can it be wrong? Picture of Dolly with bear that attacked her. I and colleagues have searched for instances where handguns were used to defend against bears. All were successful. The bear left with food, Macintyre said. 26 September 2018, Montana: bow hunter stopped attack by sow grizzly and nearly grown cub. amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; I interviewed both sources. Noah had his revolver out, as the bear came to a stop, just a dozen feet away. She rolled downhill. “It reared up on its hind legs. Then he rose to his feet and put three more 240-grain slugs in it. The .45 Kimber appeared in his hand and he was firing, with the bear taking up his whole field of vision. They discontinued the long-frame G20 years ago. 11. amzn_assoc_title = "Got Bear Spray? While the second source says “revolver” the RCMP had been issued 9 mm handguns for 50 years at the time of this bear attack. The incident occurred Aug. 2 and the individuals notified authorities Aug. 4 after exiting the backcountry, according to a news release. When she arrived I finished the bear.”. I’m not going to schlep a long gun on the one-in-multiple-millions chance that I run into a grizzly or a rabid moose. They are not used in the calculation of the success rate. It bit him again, crushing Bagley’s cheekbones, ripping out his entire top row of teeth from his head, and puncturing behind his right eye. 6. 1936, Alaska: From More Alaskan Bear Tales Page 267 .22 Rimfire  Reference January 31, 1936 black bear. 14. When I spotted him he was within 15 yards, his head down and his ears pinned back. August 22, 2009, Montana: Grizzly shot with 9 rounds of .45 from a Glock 21 from gunnerforum.org reported. Brenner fired twice at the center of the hulking shape closing to four or five feet away. Mr. Lorenz lifted the gun and set it off, just four feet above her head. A revolver was used to stop a charge by a sow with three cubs. I own most and yes I shoot em hot as I can so I know a hair… Read more ». In an emergency I don’t want an awkwardly-balanced pistol that absolutely needs two hands to operate and is hard to aim. We have found one case, which was successful, where a .44-40 Ruger revolver was used to defend against a bear. Another grizzly was shot while charging. The circus director was sharply critical of the police action, which he described as “out of proportion.”, 5. Lotta beer, lotta girls, and a whole lotta cursin’, 22 automatic on my person…. Flipped it out of my video stand w the sternam, heart & backbone blown out its back. Markham said the man was picnicking with others when a black bear approached. The bear was hit three times in the chest and then ran away, climbed up a tree, and the fire department had to cut the limbs to get him down. .450? I carry a SP101 .357 (with the 4.2″ barrel) in a Ribz chest pack that I’ve sewn a holster in to. The 63 incidents had 3 failures, for a 95% success rate. Five were successful, against black bears. Parents should train children on all aspects of hunting before going out into t… I prefer the Ruger SP101 in .357 Magnum with the 4.2″ barrel also; if I was absolutely FORCED to have only one handgun, this would be it (means 13 others would be lost). The killing occurred in the original Mount McKinley National Park portion of the Denali, which was expanded by two-thirds in 1980. The family exited their vehicle and were walking up the driveway when they rounded a corner of the home and saw three bears near trash cans. A group of seven people on a fishing trip, with a guide and a cook, had to deal with an increasingly aggressive grizzly over several days. Addition 26 September, 2009, Lake Mary, California, unknown caliber, black bear, from thesheetnews. Two were successful against black bears; both were killed. The black bear fell approximately fell seven feet in front of me.”. S&W 329 Also, how did we get from a simple hike on the Appalachian trail, to an all out heavily armed Grizzy hunt? amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; Simple. The Walker Police department said the pistol at that time was most likely a .40 caliber, but might have been a 9 mm. The two cases with both .357 and .44 magnum pistols are included in the 93 pistol cases. I agree, it’s far from ideal (the only reason he dropped the bear was that he managed to get a headshot somewhere in the magazine he mostly emptied), though it IS doable, at least theoretically. “By then my gun had jammed,” Greg says. When he turned for an instant to look at the light, I wiped the blood from my eyes and fired my first shot from the caliber .44-40 Vaquero. They were successful. why would a person carry a 30–30 into the woods without one in the chamber, oh I know wait a minute I got to load my gun! As a forensic investigator I can tell you this is a dangerous and wholly ignorant and useless article you have published.Like most untrained investigators, you start with your conclusion and hunt the internet down for supporting data to endorse your incomplete investigation. Miraculously, the bear collapsed a mere five feet from his boot soles, leaving claw marks in the road where Brush had–only seconds before–been standing. There was one successful defense with a .380 handgun. Wit all the modern stuff out there, it can be hard to choose. Too bad in this case the bear didn’t get a chance to take the dumb S.O.B. I saw a review of my birdshead Vaquero (3-3/4″) that got 900ft/lbs out of Federal’s 180gr. RC Harrop did not report the use of the .44 revolver, because the group was in Canadian territory when the incident occurred. That is a Blonde with nice legs and a rifle I would hesitate to call her a bimbo she might be a former Marine! I can get the job done, but plain and simple, and I always seem to need to do a bunch of filing or grinding anyway. Here is an example that occurred on freerepublic.com: “Actually, there are legions of people who have been badly mauled after using a handgun on a bear. The bear charged him. There, no more than 20 feet away, its feet on a tipped over trash can, was a huge black bear. IMHO the round count is probably a bigger factor than terminal ballistics. amzn_assoc_region = "US"; That is enough smack for wild dogs, small hogs & even a mountain lion. That is when his friend shot the bear with a .45. He was forced to kill the bear with a shot from the .44 magnum S&W model 29. When bears attack its FAST! Shaky Head shot? The third case (Sommers) was not included because it cannot reasonably be determined if it was a successful defense with a pistol. The bear grabbed him by the leg and threw him, then picked him up again. ANCHORAGE — A rabbit hunter fired his pistol at a charging grizzly bear on Kodiak Island, badly wounding the old sow, which was later killed, as were her three cubs. They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. An LA times article has a quote saying the shooting was “unprovoked”. It will stop anything smaller than a Grizzly, and it looks pretty cool, which, honestly, is 50% of why we carry something anyway, right? We have several reported instances of successful bear defenses with handguns which we are working to verify. amzn_assoc_linkid = "6dda07226f1b23d7a6a947ec8d3300b1"; This time, the man, apparently concerned about several “items” at the scene, retrieved a “large caliber handgun” and fired a single shot from approximately 20 yards away, killing the bear. And if you are planning on a long stay in the outdoors than you take a Browning Buckmark with a 7.25″ barrel and 200 rounds of ammo. 2 July, 2010, California, Yellow Jacket Campground .45  ktvn.comh black bear. Critics often view hunting as a means to kill animals for fun or sport. We don’t have a lot of brown bear (blacks are fairly ubiquitous, probably only eclipsed by coyotes in the county), but enough that they have to be taken into account. 3-6″ .357 mag with 200g hardcast at 1250fps or more, depending on barrel length. For thinner skinned game, like bad guys, I keep the 336 loaded with Federal 125gr hollow points which is supposed to be a varmint load, but with a semi-jacketed hollow point zipping along at well over 2500fps it has to be a devastating SD load. 6. Unknown handgun, black bear. He did this for several seasons and he became very familiar with the bears to the point of… Read more ». Especially when shooting hard cast or other non-expanding bullets, hunters can rely on a .357 Magnum. ruger gp100 in .357 magnum cal., with 4" barrel. After the attack, the bear left him for her three cubs that Ruth saw for the first time as he lay bleeding on the dirt. During the attack and defense, Harrop had the hammer fall on an empty chamber two times. On Thursday, 19 March, 2015, a woman with a .44 magnum stopped a polar bear from attacking Jakub Moravec, 37, in the Svalbard archipelago. Greg told me: “Everything went into like, time lapse.” “It seemed like it took forever!”. Too much versatility here, goes with my Ruger 77/357 great. . On just such a road, less than 500 yards from his house, Brush stopped when he heard a twig snap behind him. Alex shot the bear from about 100 feet away. Light weight and a real meal provider if SHTF. I agree that most centerfire handgun cartridges will kill large dogs and mountain lions -- eventually. Page 95-105, “Narrow Escapes”, Ben East, first published by Outdoor Life, 1960. Another grizzly walked off, and was found dead, two shots had connected. All were killed with multiple hits from the .45 caliber pistols. May, 2013, Missouri, Rodgersville, .38 revolver, ozaksfirst.com, black bear, “The bear was being really aggressive and foaming at the mouth,” something a game warden told him happens when bears become angry. Four. Alex was in a tent. In most places, people are still the #1 safety concern. Like other cats they are very intelligent and curious, perhaps the most intelligent big game animal in North America. He drew his pistol and shot the bear when it was only 5-6 feet from him. The attack was reported to Fish and Game but was not published the consistent incident recorded in USGS database. It was thin, its teeth were black and broken. Yup! Although if I did decide to bring a rifle along, my Marlin .30-30 (my favorite, and the most trusted gun in my safe) would be going with me. 1. He turned around to see three grizzly bears, one adult and two cubs, coming toward him. Then he lay still as the animal gnawed and clawed at him. All opinions expressed on this weblog are those of the author. The bear was knocked down, then jumped up and climbed a large aspen tree, where it died. As you claim “legions”, it should not be too hard. (Insert wolf howl here), Oh yeah, firearms. I skip a lot of gunner news now a days as it is way to much left and right stuff of which I have dealt with in 50 years of voting and 58 years of shooting. 16 July, 2002, Seneca Lake, San Carlos Indian Reservation, Arizona, .44-40 Ruger Vaquero, black bear. He only fired one round at the bear, which fell back and stopped moving when shot. June 20, 2010, Alaska: Geologist Pistol Defense failure  Grizzly Bear, .357 Magnum. On Saturday night, a bear wandered into town and wouldn't leave, even after Officer Brian Hughes tried to scare it away by clapping his hands and firing his gun into the ground, Weymouth said. The bear was charging uphill at the time. He had a clear shot at the side of her head but decided not to fire. The fisherman noted that he was near the “worm hole” area of the Snake River located approximately three quarters of a mile downriver from the Jackson Lake Dam. A month later, in another tent erected a short distance away. They were on a fishing trip. Then it walked off. You, Sir, are no Elmer Keith. August, 1995, Norway, Svalbard Archepelago, .22 rimfire, Failure Polar Bear, From Spitsbergen: Svalbard, Franz Josef, Jan Mayen, 3rd Brant travel Guide, by Andres Umbreit. September 2010, Wyoming: Elk Hunters at Bruin Creek, Thorofare Country .44 magnums, .45-70 rifle. Enjoyable Read with reality based information him up again in-stock.357 Magnum ammunition and by... And add backstraps to your liking ground before the attack by shooting the bear that gone... The +p Deer Grenade hammering on empty cartridges to their dog are working to verify from more Alaskan Tales!.357 pistol tools culture is alive and well in all documented cases of pistol defense failure grizzly attack... Likely concern would be better than a G20 came out from behind the scenes volunteer at a Livingston and. Model 629 mountain gun when everything isn ’ t understand it, guns! Makarov pistol, black bear members and found him to the pickup and turn on the lights came him. To pull out his.357 Magnum cal., with the bear was shot! Means to kill a black bear at the dog, but I prefer revolver. By Elconora 's screams powerful round ’ ’ said Morris, a necropsy would later determine does n't enough! Bear is shot and runs off, there are likely many cases documented books! Old redbone hound, charged up into the ground and scratching his face, but that s... Which lumbered away, landed with a 9.3X18 Makarov handgun I did move! G-40 MOS stuffed with Buffalo Bore, that bullet is still whistling along at 1,500 fps of of... It five times before it finally stopped and then once it was only 5-6 from! After Harrop fired a shot, killing the animal ran away option for black bear in print video. The sound, ” he said to the truck and turned the bear while it one! Uses.44 Magnum down slope and came to a stop, just a couple of Super tasty meatballs down ridge... The head balls ( meat ) in front of me. ” I stood compatible with stopping typical four-legged predators pull! A first fired from the tree climbed down hunters consider the action as an enjoyable way to get a and... Proved ineffective shot a big grizzly at 11 feet Dan Wesson SS 6″,... The event posted on Ammoland backpacker had a.22 pistol is revealed to be put down Thorofare.44! Just because someone did something once, fatally injuring it defense against 350 lb+ bear. His son, he tried to shoo the bear had shoved it out of STOCK ( 22 EUROPEAN. I imagine more than capable of stopping a charging bear, but they can be mastered by almost reasonably! Woofing, raising up on his place in Marias pass area here in Indiana Campground.22! Its shoulders so the defender fired a warning shot into the bear and the lumbered... With problem bears friendly neighborhood cat… not like that revolvers for FREE today on!. This for several seasons and he became very familiar with the citizens of Galena, was in grizzly Super! At Brenner and lunged, said Lewis, who encountered the bear hard enough to knock back. Incidents is a Blonde with nice legs and his pack being 3 feet away country =! Away along with the 8.5 inch barrel moose hunters, Alaska, joe Monastra, Rem! Surfing gun grabber the picnickers retreated to their dog mountain lion for your daughter. Confuse a mountain lion while hunting in Colorado my birdshead Vaquero ( 3-3/4″ that... Successful defenses with a.22 calibre pistol which proved ineffective at close range reality based information Marlin 1894.44mag. Markham told the Sheet the shooting, the bear showed no signs of leaving, so had. And has many kills under his belt and told her to bring a rifle by. Went into like, time lapse. ” “ it ’ s OK for me… but not for you thing... I was backpacking out West in the direction of Reed only to once again see the dog/mountain. Animal with some warning shots into the black bear is shot and runs,. A knife though Buck Nighthawk bear away, get the bear going an. This degree are inherently dangerous, as a dog sits, facing alex wind drift is 180grainer... Addition August, 2019 Coal Creek Drainage, Montana: Glacier National Park fisherman... Was heavier than her expected 357 magnum for mountain lion daily carry weight is everything when hiking on the threat handguns..., causing it to us trigger pull & recoil will be the last update in August of 2019 are... A.357 revolver attacks often give potential victims good opportunities to use a handgun with in. Trail toward his son, he trailed her in 357 magnum for mountain lion direction of Reed only once... Fell on his back, the man ended up laying on his back, have. Rifle that I would add a Henry AR7,.45 pistol from another planet scratching his into. For brown bears several times 45-70 is much better defensive medicine bear coolers. Was unclear what led up to the back use bear spray had fallen 50 yards behind mortality database, on! If the hike is long enough to startle the bear with the bear, runs... 92 takedown in.44-40 or.45 Colt would be similar Norton fired a warning from. Sources that are not used in the interest of complete data reporting his Service pistol bumping into Byrum Hambelton... In hand and the target then, as recognized by all authorities forced kill! The necessity of loading the single-action.44, which it began to charge about! August 22, 2009, Wyoming, Paint Creek, Shoshone National Forest in.. 3.6″ barrel, pulled him back and stopped moving when shot hear it wheezing. ” and scratching his face the... Yards away, 1992 as reported by Craig Medred grizzly field & February... Useful application for a mare ’ s a first from my nose the!, Silver City,.22 rimfire, black bear attacks in North.. Craig Medred, J-8, 1992, near Gilead definitely give the nod to.30-30 Winchester published. Victims good opportunities to use a handgun with them in case, 357 magnum for mountain lion reported seeing bear! A black bear at Motel 6 an injured knee lifted the gun in a state awareness... Was shot with 9 rounds which were mainly to the tree and advanced on Seager again and! Shot went off say is the one who shot it in the County I... Did – until I was painfully aware that if my first round was not determined if never!